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Title: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Dec 26, 2012, 04:48:01 PM
Ok, get rid of the weeds that overran everything last year.  That's a biggy.

Then I have to figure out what I'm going to do with the miniature roses that got black spot.  From what I understand it's impossible to get rid of and the only thing to do is to dig them up and the soil around them and throw it all out.  Then start over.  Of course I do not want to do that.  I do have the baylor 3 in 1 rose treatment.  But all it does is make all the leaves fall off and then new ones come in.  But by the time it's time to reapply the stuff the black spots are back.  Any idea's out there?

Next the veggie garden just did not work where I wanted it.  The rabbits and other wildlife eat it all.  So I can put the onions and horseradish there because the animals don't like those.  But for everything else I want to grow I'm going to use pots on the deck. 

If the net didn't work to keep the squirrels out of the plums what else can I do?

 
What do you plan to do next year? 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Jan 31, 2013, 01:45:09 PM
The pots on the deck didn't work out real well last year but I did get some lettuce.  And since the lettuce is popping up again I guess I'll give it a second go.  The green onions are comming up too.  I'd like more of them in that pot so I might reseed it.  Betcha I end up with all these plants in the house with a late frost again this year.  I wonder how many of my fruit trees I'll lose this year?
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on Jan 31, 2013, 02:45:43 PM
duh, I used to have a rose garden and so did my neighbor.  Smelled so good. Once in a while we got black spot.  There are products that will prevent it but you have to be diligent and they are expensive.  What we did and Lord only knows where we got this was to mix apple cider vinegar with water and spray in the morning.  We put 3 tbs in this big sprayer, I don't know what size it was, but I'd guess 1-1/2 gallon.  It seemed to help a lot.  It didn't make what was there go away, and there was always a little there, but I really think it kept it from spreading.  That and picking up any leaves that fell in the flower garden.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on Jan 31, 2013, 02:47:41 PM
This year I'm going to plant my squash in straw bales to see if it helps with the squash bug situation I had last year.  Everyone around me had tons of squash but the bugs would not leave mine alone.  I thought about raised beds but straw bales will be easier because I won't have to haul in dirt and the straw will degrade into compost.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bayou girl on Feb 23, 2013, 11:54:33 PM
i'm going to try having a bucket and box garden, and i am going to start a lasagna bed for a real garden for next year.  it will be the first gardening of any kind that i have done in 7 years or so.  wish me luck.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Feb 28, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
I wish you the best of luck.  What is a bucket and box garden?
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bayou girl on Feb 28, 2013, 05:36:32 PM
you use sturdy card board boxes as "square foot" raised beds, and 5 gal buckets with holes cut out the same way.  i've done it before very successfully.  i just haven't done it in a few years.  it will be a couple of weeks before i actually get ready to work on it, but i've bought the seeds and i'm getting ready to start.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on Feb 28, 2013, 07:40:26 PM
Jenn, that's great.  And working part time will allow  you to get out to check on things early in the morning before the sun gets hot.  I tried lasagna gardening using cardboard and had too many rolly poly bugs under the cardboard.  I'd do it again if I could figure out how to keep them away.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bayou girl on Feb 28, 2013, 08:18:34 PM
robert and i are going to do a lasagna bed in back for the blueberry bushes i want to plant.  we got out as the sun was setting today to figure where we should put them.  we found out that i can't put the garden (the real one, for next year) where i was planning because it is still soaked.  doesn't drain well enough.  and we did figure out a nice little part that was slightly higher than the rest of the area, so the blueberries would be dry enough but still have lots of water, even if it is dry out.  my back acres are a little wet.  :rain3:
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on Feb 28, 2013, 08:23:26 PM
You'll have to cover those blueberries or you're birds will have a feast.  I love blueberries.  My entire yard is soaked.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: Dianna on Feb 28, 2013, 10:12:39 PM
Guineas love blueberries, too. Desi chases them away from the house when she is here because they ate them all one year... :giggle:
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on Mar 03, 2013, 07:56:39 PM
I've had people tell me their plants did great in straw bales and some tell me that their plants rotted or didn't perform well.  I don't know what to do now.

I hope it dries up this week so I can put out carrots, lettuce, and radishes.   It will get too hot too fast if I wait.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Mar 12, 2013, 03:28:40 PM
I have one blueberry budding out and the other two haven't come out of being dormant yet. 

My plan this year is to Plant climbing roses along the fence so I don't have to paint or mess with those silly fences anymore.  I'm going to do something crazy to keep the railings attached to the post.  I don't know what but something. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Mar 12, 2013, 03:44:15 PM
So it's almost that time again. 

I promised myself to dig up what I need to dig up early this year before the ground gets so hard.  And what I need to dig up is a place for climbing roses up by the fences.  I didn't do it today though.  I thought I needed to cut up the dead wood that has fallen in the trees first. 

45 minutes of strength was not enough.  I barely cleared a path to the first tree and only got 3 pieces of it cut up.  It is still leaning against the cypress.  And talk about a place that is hard to get to.  Major problem.  But it is improvement and that's how I'm going to consider it. 

So what have you done today?
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Mar 17, 2013, 09:20:19 AM
I haven't decided if i want to just let the irises take over most of the foundation beds or if I would like to have a topiary on either side of the front door.  I'm sure the topiaries would be expensive so I think I'll just divide the irises this fall. 

The irises on the driveway flower bed have disappeared.  They are up everywhere else but there.  Maybe the roots of the cypress took them out?  What is suprising is that the ice plant is still going.  It's not spreading but it doesn't die either. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bayou girl on Mar 17, 2013, 10:28:03 PM
i love ice plant, but it does not grow well here.  at least not for me.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on Mar 18, 2013, 11:44:57 AM
I remember ice plant from when we lived in CA.  It was everywhere to help stop erosion.

Yesterday I planted a row of carrots.  I've started the straw bales too.

Dianna do you have Guineas?
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Mar 29, 2013, 11:51:20 AM
One of the things I'm going to do is when the leaves from the daffodils die back I'm going to dig them out and spread them out along the front of the foundation bed.  There are enough to plant at least one bulb every three inches.  So over the next 3 years they can fill in and look nice and full in the spring after that.  I like that idea. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on Mar 29, 2013, 10:29:44 PM
I love daffodils.  They grow along my front walk and are so sunny.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: Jim on Mar 30, 2013, 12:50:52 PM
I guess I'll do a garden again this year.  I had my doubts after last year.  I really missed fresh tomatoes and squash though.  I think we will give it another try and see what happens.  I've got to come up with a better system of weed/grass control though as it was no fun "mowing" between the rows last year.

It has been so wet I haven't been able to get the spot ready.  I wanted to sanitize it to help with the weeds, by covering it with black plastic for about a month and let the sun cook the grass/weed seeds but didn't get around to doing that.

I usually like to plant the week after Easter but I'm just not ready this year. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Mar 30, 2013, 01:27:51 PM
I so understand what you are saying Jim.  It seems like fruits and veggies all end up feeding the wildlife rather than me.  And after all that work to keep them feed and weed free. 

I hope you have the best luck ever this year.

I'm going to concentrate on cleaning up the mess from last year and my flowers.  I want to get them just right this year. 

Maybe next year I'll get around to the veggies.  Even if it is just tomatoes and peppers in the tires. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Apr 01, 2013, 09:51:41 AM
Well best layed plans of mice and gardeners.  I've bought kolrabi already and planted it. 

Then I began putting the compost in the tire beds.  It looks like I'll be doing tomatoes this year too.  I hope I can find the San Marino's since those are suppose to be the sweet ones. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Apr 13, 2013, 07:10:12 AM
No luck on the San Marino's.  I ended up with a big boy and a juliet.

Here is the problem with crowding that I need to fix.

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I'm thinking I should move the mums since it's the right time of the year to move them.  I'll put them down about another 3 inches.  That should be fine for there then I'll just have to trim around the forsynthia. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Apr 17, 2013, 06:26:11 AM
So lets see what is on the 10 year plan for 2013 -

Spring   Plant a mixed bulb beds on either side of the front door (Crocuses, Daffodils, Tulips, Gladiolus, Irises)   Yellow tulips, multicolor gladiolus, purple Iris and crocus, Move the Naked Ladies into the mixed bulb beds, Move the Peruvian Daffodils to the mixed bulb beds, buy an orange crown imperial for the mixed bulb bed one for each side at least.  

Cut down saplings that are encroaching on the, well, septic tank and drain field.  Also take down saplings that are in the electric companies right-of-way.  And the trees that are crowding the trees I want to keep.  I want a constant supply of wood so I want some mature trees some young trees and some saplings at all times.  I also want the shaded area to be a nice area to walk in and to plant shade plants. 
May 4th   Treat Roses for Black Spot and Fertilize (Bayer Rose Food)

Summer Plant portulaca in birdbath flower bed.

*Weed, cut grass...[repeat] lol

Winter   Cut back Mums         
            
All    Dig up cherry tree root         
All    Cut down chestnut oak in driveway bed         
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on May 15, 2013, 05:06:14 PM
How's the birdbath flower bed coming?
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on May 17, 2013, 09:34:51 AM
It's there, lol.

One of the money plants fell over so I propped it up with a rock since there wasn't any damage that I could see.  The mums need more water than they are getting and with the outside faucet broken I don't know how I'll keep everything watered.  So the mums are kind of wilted.  I won't plant the portulaca for about another month.  They like it hot and I don't want any cool night temperatures to kill them off. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on May 17, 2013, 11:17:53 AM
My money plant doesn't get tall enough to fall over.   Yours must be getting just the right amount of whatever it needs.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on May 17, 2013, 08:48:34 PM
Possibly they are two different plants with the same common name.  That happens a lot. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on May 17, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
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this is mine before it goes to the white, papery, coin stage.  The places it has sprung up is total shade.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on May 17, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
Interesting.  I've got mine in full sun and the birdbath flower bed did get a far amount of compost this year.  So maybe that's the difference?  Then again I only have 2 plants so maybe they have more space?  I really couldn't tell you but without something to indicate height I'd be guessing.  I think my soil was just to soft and all the rain washed a bunch of it away.  I'll see about adding some more dirt to it tomorrow and maybe adding some small branches as well to keep the dirt from migrating.   
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bayou girl on May 19, 2013, 12:07:18 AM
it's pretty!
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on May 19, 2013, 08:53:38 AM
Change in plans for this year.  I'll be using 8 of the tires rather than 4.  It's a good thing.  Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.  It means I'll only have 6 to fill next year.  Along with topping off the others of course.
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on May 19, 2013, 12:36:49 PM
I thought that the bunch of day lilies on the left side of the ditch beds were orange.  They are blooming yellow.  That's great it means I have more space to put in orange without it looking like there are too many.  Happy days another chore for this fall. 

Ok, 4 to fill next year and 10 to top off.  I never said I could count. 
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: bestofour on May 27, 2013, 11:55:23 PM
duh, I have forgotten - are you planting tomatoes in the tires?
Title: Re: 2013 growing season plans
Post by: duh on Jun 05, 2013, 09:33:29 AM
Tomatoes and Bell Peppers are in the tires.   
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