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Gardening => Vegetables and Fruit => Topic started by: duh on Oct 19, 2010, 09:28:10 AM

Title: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Oct 19, 2010, 09:28:10 AM
Well my oldest now has two branches on it and a second one has finally produced a trunk from the seed.  I'm very excited as I'm sure you know.  Even though I probably won't survive until these fruit I love growing them.  Crazy right?
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Oct 19, 2010, 10:15:23 AM
They are fun to grow from seeds. And if they can survive your climate they make lovely trees even if they don't ever fruit. I used to give Jonni the seeds and send her out with a trowel at a very early age. She would plant them any where she wanted so I had them growing in paths and things. I transplanted them to more happy areas and we have a few of them around to add to our shade canopy. Some we have cut down when they obstruct traffic. So ours are over 15 years old now and have never fruited. I truly don't care.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Jessica on Oct 19, 2010, 12:39:06 PM
How long is it supposed to take before they fruit?
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Oct 19, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
I think 10 years, but most of our commercial avo trees are grafted varieties with strong fruiting varieties on top grafted onto good disease resistant rootstock. My seed trees are not grafted and may never fruit. And if they do they may just have wimpy little fruits barely edible. But they are pretty evergreen trees. They have large leaves that are very easy to clean up when they do drop. They are easy to trim trees to conform to the areas you want them in.
Conversely they can be kept in containers for many years for indoor/outdoor growing as a largish houseplant.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Jessica on Oct 19, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
I have to google them.  I am pretty sure I have never seen an avocado tree.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Jessica on Oct 19, 2010, 01:00:18 PM
They are a nice looking tree.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Oct 19, 2010, 01:01:28 PM
And super easy to propagate the seeds. And those large seeds are fun for kids.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Jessica on Oct 19, 2010, 01:26:29 PM
Any special tips or tricks? Maybe I will have Tristen plant one in a pot.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Oct 19, 2010, 03:21:30 PM
The original avocado tree took 50 years to fruit although the hybrids do much better now.  I like the originals flavor more than the hybrids so that's what I have.

As far as tips let them dry out before planting.  Plant with the top third showing above the soil.  Keep the soil moist but not wet. 

When you transplant please remember that the trees are heavy feeders and want 30 feet of space.  The best way to plant them for polination is to plant 3 trees in one hole.  The reason is that there are both male and female trees and this is the best way to get one of each. 
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Oct 19, 2010, 03:46:23 PM
Or just do what I did. Give Tristen the next seed that comes out of your salad and a pot and some soil and let him go for it while it is fresh. It won't even matter which direction he puts it or the season if you are doing it indoors. Keep moist.
When I was a kid we stuck 3 toothpicks into the seed, equidistant around the middle, and 'planted' it on the top of a glass of water. I cannot remember if it is supposed to be point up or point down. But even the ones that were wrong sprouted if the water was kept touching them. We did this on windowsills all over.
I was never looking to grow fruit. Even though I live in a zone where they could be grown. And the trees will not survive to fruiting size and age up in your neck of the woods, Jessica. But it makes for a fun project for the kids. And easy. My mother even enjoyed growing them and you never met a bigger brown thumb.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Oct 19, 2010, 04:04:14 PM
Pointy side up.  And you need to keep the water fresh.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Jessica on Oct 19, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
Yes, I knew it wouldn't work outside here but thought it would be fun for him to grow in a pot.  Thanks for the info.  I have an avocado at home waiting to be eaten.  I will give him the seed.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Oct 20, 2010, 12:35:45 PM
For me the seeds take a long time to germinate.  Is he good at keeping to a long term project?
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Ariel on Oct 20, 2010, 01:00:18 PM
I have one i did from a seed :D
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Oct 28, 2010, 10:28:18 AM
Aren't they great?  I'll tell you the newest one that I planted has really taken off.  I'm thinking the other one that took so long to germinate may need new potting soil.  I'm dreading that because I have so little left.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Nov 04, 2010, 08:16:32 AM
Well the second one has finally started to catch up.  I pinched it back the other day and I'm looking forward to it growing well.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Jan 16, 2011, 01:16:35 PM
Well they are both growing well which is very nice.  I'm hoping I have a male and female tree.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: bayou girl on Jan 16, 2011, 02:04:28 PM
i hope you do tammy.  that would be awesome!
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Jan 16, 2011, 02:51:32 PM
once they reach 8 feet I may be bringing them down to you.  They won't survive our winters up here.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: bayou girl on Jan 16, 2011, 03:40:19 PM
:giggle: i have plenty of room for them!
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Penny on Jan 17, 2011, 08:06:07 AM
Cool, i hope they do well.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Jan 17, 2011, 09:53:58 PM
Yeah we just have to figure out how to get them in my compact lol.  But the time will tell. 
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: bayou girl on Jan 17, 2011, 10:02:25 PM
:giggle: maybe i'll snag them on my way home from one of my trips up.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Jan 18, 2011, 09:28:16 AM
That sounds like a deal.  I'd like to think of them growing in your garden.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Bonnie on Aug 08, 2011, 03:06:13 PM
How are your trees doing? Any updates?
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Aug 09, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
one died, the other one has branched out and it doing great.  I need to repot it but I haven't gotten around to it yet. 
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Bonnie on Aug 09, 2011, 10:52:16 AM
I potted mine that I started from seed in June and it's already about 3 1/2 ft tall. I don't know what to do with it.

Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Aug 09, 2011, 01:50:14 PM
Whether they ever fruit or not, they make a great smallish evergreen tree outdoors.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Aug 09, 2011, 06:17:57 PM
have you topped it so it will branch?
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Bonnie on Aug 09, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
No I haven't topped it. I probably need too huh? I don't know if it will grow outside here.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Aug 09, 2011, 08:18:10 PM
I believe they are zone 9 and 10.  Southern California style but I haven't looked it up.  I just plan to keep mine in the house and keep it bonzia-ed more or less.  Since the tallest point in my house is only about 10 feet. 

It seems they don't like to branch unless they are topped sometimes more than once.  I guess it depends on how you want it to look.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Aug 09, 2011, 08:29:18 PM
They will grow in zone 8, too. They do need excellent drainage. Most of the time they are grown on hillside groves here.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Bonnie on Aug 10, 2011, 10:20:48 PM
I solved my problem. I gave both of them away, but I have three more just about ready to pot. I thought it might be easier to keep a baby one inside and maybe plant  one next sping.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Aug 10, 2011, 11:31:08 PM
Yes, they make good temporary house plants too.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Aug 23, 2011, 11:49:58 AM
My avocado tree just got transplanted into a real flower pot that is 4 times the size of the ice cream container it was in.  Hopefully now it won't need watering everyday.  Anyway I think it is going to be way happier.  I also used up most of the soil from the wintersow that didn't work out last year. 
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Bonnie on Aug 23, 2011, 02:33:27 PM
Boy, they sure do like a lot of water.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Aug 24, 2011, 07:29:42 PM
They do it's amazing how much it will absorb.  when I transplanted it, it was dry all the way through. 
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Bonnie on Oct 11, 2011, 09:04:13 AM
I topped the tree I gave my son a while back and stuck the top in water. It has leafs sprouting all out of it but no roots. Do you think it will root this way? It's been in the water a couple of weeks now.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Oct 11, 2011, 09:08:49 AM
I honestly do not know, Bonnie. I am horrid at sprouting in water.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Dianna on Oct 11, 2011, 09:17:37 AM
Don't they normally take a long time to root? :ScratchHead:
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Oct 11, 2011, 08:06:59 PM
did you put some root stimulator in the water?  Or failing that a little honey in the water?  I've heard either will work for helping roots to grow.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: bayou girl on Oct 11, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
i've heard you can also put a willow twig in and that will make them sprout.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Bonnie on Oct 11, 2011, 10:28:32 PM
I didn't put anything in the water, Duh, but I will give it a little something.
Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: duh on Jun 05, 2012, 03:06:01 PM
My tree isn't in the greatest shape.  I recently topped it again.  When I put it outside it got a bad case of sunburn.

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Title: Re: Avacado Trees
Post by: Tina on Jun 05, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
It will recover with water and neglect, Tammy.
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